tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3577091962812282559.post8922929094449181324..comments2024-03-29T03:01:54.922-07:00Comments on bloginafog: The main - if not the only - problem with socialismWoflhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10215884001340285492noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3577091962812282559.post-78639944625705164382015-10-30T01:38:46.492-07:002015-10-30T01:38:46.492-07:00Some communes did survive and still do so. I know...Some communes did survive and still do so. I know of two or three. The word 'commune' is not helpful, of course. 'Co-operative' is better. Woflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10215884001340285492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3577091962812282559.post-89746386076174939912015-10-29T17:35:01.834-07:002015-10-29T17:35:01.834-07:00I guess you're right that bossism is the same ...I guess you're right that bossism is the same as larger societal administrative centralization. Bosses did emerge in communes, true, the passive accepting meekly the tyranny of the egotistical, until silently they slipped away in the night leaving the egotists to rant on their own. Too bad--really.Marcus Billsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308066836427766909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3577091962812282559.post-35008118667289354962015-10-28T12:53:28.722-07:002015-10-28T12:53:28.722-07:00Each hippie commune quickly became centralised - s...Each hippie commune quickly became centralised - someone always became boss, because the others had not the wit to realise that true community depends on bosslessness. The same is true of the Israeli Kibbutz pseudo-communes, which were/are hierarchical and very controlled. No commune works unless - for a start - paternity is not an issue and monogamy is viewed as merely a life-choice and no more. Property and hierarchy begin with the owning of children. Woflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10215884001340285492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3577091962812282559.post-38534075316185467682015-10-28T11:01:30.677-07:002015-10-28T11:01:30.677-07:00What's your take on the hippie communes of the...What's your take on the hippie communes of the US in the 60's and 70's? They weren't centralized, they sought after a pure democratic socialism, but they failed. At some point socialism tends toward the autocratic, not quite the same thing as toward centralization.Marcus Billsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308066836427766909noreply@blogger.com